Her husband, Mark McCloskey, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth degree assault and was fined $750. "The family has been very patient. His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. Or the fact the one of those officers heard her make this statement at the time of her arrest and not the other. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. Your email address will not be published. "Yaser Said, you're a devil. Its never been made clear. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. (Nope. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. "You knew how the The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. Wow. Her brother Larrys false confession was all the LAPD needed to put Patricia behind bars. They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! A knife and the clothing worn by the victim potentially had all of the answers that would have led to the real murderer, but that evidence was destroyed by the LAPD. Just saying. Dial-a-problem. You say by definition! I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. Patricia was relieved when police took him for custody after 12 years of her daughter's murder. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. Jenkins was reported missing after her vehicle was found idling with her 2-year-old son inside. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. I decided to just plead guilty to get it over with.. Shes being well taken care of.. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. No show. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. Prosecutors said the Prues planned the March 2012 crime: Patricia Prue's computer had been used to conduct online searches for "how to kidnap a girl," the Prues acquired a stun gun, and they bought a prepaid cellphone to call Jenkins to ask for help. But it doesnt make a nonsense of her being the shooter, regardless of their speculation. According to Kohlhepp, the RTPD obtained Patricia Koptas DNA sample, then obtained one from her sister and a nephew. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? If Patricia drove it back from the murder scene after she shot Joann and then beat her to death, luminal would have lit up the interior. I didnt believe it. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. Thank you Kerry. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. Is Dallas becoming unaffordable due to rising housing costs, inflation and stagnating pay? I comment on these forums because they are the only places offering the opportunity to, hopefully, bring awareness to those whore unfamiliar with this case and her unfair plight. Phone records dont lie.) We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! Or did they? Jerry Browns office, because of Wrights Three Strikes sentence of life without possibility of parole (LWOP), she does not qualify for medical parole. "You can keep those evil eyes glaring just glare away because this is going to be the last time that you see me.". I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. Sorry not sorry. Patrica Owens, Yaser Said's ex-wife, testified before the jury Thursday morning and said why she fled her home with her daughters only to return days before they were Emailus. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! You took my family all in one night," she said. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. Its been going on for almost 31 years, the distraught man explained. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. Patty is my cousin. When she was there, she refused to discuss her private life or where she came from.. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. So would judge and jury say. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. She is legally blind, has stage four cancer that has spread to her breasts and her brain, causing her to lose control of her bodily functions, leaving her diapered, and has been given six months to live. They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. "This was not a sudden or impetuous act on your part. Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. Through that testing, the elderly patient was confirmed to be the same woman locally known in Pittsburgh as a street preacher called The Sparrow who vanished and left her family flummoxed. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. In April 2019, 69-year-old Patricia was found guilty of second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. Lead Prosecutor Lauren Black called Said a true narcissist who believed he was smarter than everybody else. Trash-talking ex. She is a D-FW native with a B.A. For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Your email address will not be published. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? And Patricia did live in another state. Her mother, Patricia Chambers, provided day care for their baby son, Charles. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. There was widespread speculation that the sisters were shot in an honor killing a practice in some cultures in which men kill female relatives who are thought to have brought shame upon their families. I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. According to court documents, Patricia Owens, the victims mother and Saids former wife, told authorities that her son and Yaser Saids brothers indicated support for the killings and were not cooperative with law enforcement. Jenkins was a teacher at St. Johnsbury Academy. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours from Riverside to Los Angeles and sit in court all day, Patricia said. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. Hoist by your own petard. It was her father, Yaser Said who committed the crime of killing his two innocent teen daughters. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. I was told they wanted to convict Lawrence Slaughter and not my sister.. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. Dame Patricia said she was "deeply saddened" to hear of her former co-star's death. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. Flaw in reasoning. Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. No charmed life. Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. That woman has no soul. There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. Patricia had a knack for writing strong headlines, which won her first place in a 2012 national contest. Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. Hair we go. She held up pictures of her dead daughters. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. Even after 12 years of frustration and dead-ends, the pursuit for their killer never ceased, Spivey said in a statement. Shock, Gloria Smith, the sister of the lost-and-found woman, said at the press conference. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. Soon after, Kopta lost her job because she was seeing things and her behavior was disruptive, and then she began to walk the streets to spread her message. By signing up you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, Stand with us in our mission to discover and uncover the story of North Texas, Jury convicts man who harbored fugitive brother accused of killing teen daughters in Irving in 2008, Irving man admits to harboring fugitive father accused of murdering teenage daughters, A day after powerful thunderstorms, North Texas surveys the damage, 3 children killed, 2 wounded at Ellis County home; suspect in custody, How a Texas districts reaction to school shooting fears highlights discipline concerns, Carrollton man advertised pills on social media to entice teens to buy fentanyl, feds say. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. Police were led to the Prues by a business card found in Jenkins' home for Allen Prue's snow-plow business and a report that the Prues had called Jenkins about trouble with their vehicle. "Clive was a skilful and inventive actor with wide experience, as his successful career proved," she said. And I have absolutely no sympathy. She embraced spontaneity and diligence. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. I cant lose them, he told the media. She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? And shes were so happy. Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. Marissa Suarez, in the matching brown hat and scarf, and Patricia Todisco, in the darker hat, are seen inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 (images via FBI court filing).
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